And once again, Donald Trump is at the center of the debate.

Playbook co-author Rachael Bade flew to Orange County, California, to watch the fireworks at the RNC’s winter meeting, where three-time incumbent chairwoman Ronna McDaniel faced a challenge from conservative lawyer Harmeet Dhillon.

To understand what this fight is about, Rachael had breakfast with Bill Palatucci, a longtime party insider who is also a close ally of Chris Christie and a strong critic of Donald Trump.

In this week’s episode, Palatucci explains how the Dhillon-McDaniel race isn’t just about the RNC presidency, it’s about who will lead the GOP through 2024, and beyond, and why the GOP could languish for a long time. time depending on the Exit.